If fossil fuels come from fossils, why have scientists found them on one of Saturn’s moons?

By Jo Nova

They didn’t tell us, the term “fossils fuels” might be wrong too

Dr Willie Soon unleashed on the failures of climate change and modern science for 40 minutes with Tucker Carlson (see below). As an opening he explained how one of Saturn’s moons has more oil and gas than Earth does, which rather pokes a hole in the idea that fossil fuels need millions of years to form.

Essentially a frozen, lifeless moon, with no dinosaurs, forests or peat bogs, somehow has lakes of methane. Thus a moon with no fossils can still be full of fossil fuels. Not only does Titan have liquid seas of methane — but we’ve known this for years. In fact even in 2005 a NASA scientist quietly admitted that Titan had methane that wasn’t made from fossils. But where was NASA in the 18 years since?

Soon explains that Titan proves that abiotic oil and gas formation is true. In 2009 an experiment showed that when methane is put under great pressure like the kind we find 50-100 miles underground, it can form more complex hydrocarbons. (Kolesnikov). Several papers in the last dozen years find more exotic kinds of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons all over the place, like in Titan’s atmosphere and even forming in deep cold interstellar space. (Zhao, Parker, Freissinet) They also found benzene on Mars.

On his CERES sites, Willie Soon explains that in practical terms,  we don’t know how much of the oil and gas on earth is made without fossils (in an abiogenic process). It could be forming 50 to 100 miles down, but we’re only drilling 6 to 8 miles deep. I seems we have little idea. Even if abiotic oil exists on Earth, it may form too slowly to be useful. Though there are these odd claims out there that some oil fields are refilling

What we do know, says Jo, is that they’re not trying to understand this, and they’re not trying to tell us the whole truth either.  We’ve taught two generations of children that there is one simple narrative, and if you questioned it you were an idiot. Isn’t it time a civilization completely dependent on these fuels had an honest discussion about where they came from?

 

 

Willie Soon worked at Harvard in astrophysics for 31 years but quit because he wanted the freedom to say what he thinks and to research what he wants to. He co-founded CERES-Science.

REFERENCES

Kolesnikov, A., Kutcherov, V. & Goncharov, A. Methane-derived hydrocarbons produced under upper-mantle conditions. Nature Geosci 2, 566–570 (2009). https://ift.tt/Voux7S1

Mastrogiuseppe, M., Poggiali, V., Hayes, A.G. et al. Deep and methane-rich lakes on TitanNat Astron 3, 535–542 (2019). https://ift.tt/SRBjn1b

Hayes, Alexander (2016) The Lakes and Seas of Titan, Annual Review of Earth and Planetary Sciences, Vol. 44:57-83 (Volume publication date June 2016)

Zhao, L., Kaiser, R.I., Xu, B. et al. Low-temperature formation of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons in Titan’s atmosphere. Nat Astron 2, 973–979 (2018). https://ift.tt/PGXxLka

C. Freissinet, et al (2015) Organic molecules in the Sheepbed Mudstone, Gale Crater, Mars, JGR Planets, AGU, https://ift.tt/9yguRei

Dorian S. N. Parker and colleagues (2011), Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.11138271. (Link faulty, it may refer to this paper “Low temperature formation of naphthalene and its role in the synthesis of PAHs (Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons) in the interstellar medium”, https://ift.tt/nOlZMoj

 

 

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January 10, 2024 at 12:10PM

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